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Steve Jobs : Google do no evil is bullshit

February 1, 2010

It doesn’t just stop at Google, he goes on a rant about Adobe as well. Calling their developers “lazy”. It’s a classic triad on par with any human being with a small tool set.

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Regarding Google: We did not enter the search business, Jobs said. They entered the phone business. Make no mistake they want to kill the iPhone. We won’t let them, he says. Someone else asks something on a different topic, but there’s no getting Jobs off this rant. I want to go back to that other question first and say one more thing, he says. This don’t be evil mantra: “It’s bullshit.” Audience roars.

Regarding Adobe: They are lazy, Jobs says. They have all this potential to do interesting things but they just refuse to do it. They don’t do anything with the approaches that Apple is taking, like Carbon. Apple does not support Flash because it is so buggy, he says. Whenever a Mac crashes more often than not it’s because of Flash. No one will be using Flash, he says. The world is moving to HTML5.

Read More http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/googles-dont-be-evil-mantra-is-bullshit-adobe-is-lazy-apples-steve-jobs/

pretty funny… well not really… see it would be funny if the iPhone, iPad, iTouch actually supported Flash… but it doesn’t… yet the Google Android does.

So the insults flying from Jobs mouth are more along the lines of Apple’s personal failures… rather than the companies he is targeting.

Written by TheFounder · Filed Under Advertising Agency News 


Comments

  • Marc Andreessen said something very similar in Ken Auletta's new book Googled re: Do No Evil being BS.
  • TheFounder
    for those that don't know Marc Andreessen is credited with virtually starting the modern browser ...
  • michaelsemer
    "Personal failures?" How so? What's your logic, because I ain't seeing it. Their decision to lock out Flash makes perfect sense, if you're trying to driver your own DRM content/transaction business. Sites like Hulu use Flash -- why make it easier for your users to get their content there, instead of through your own proprietary funnel? Android supports it because Google isn't going down Jobs' road when it comes to monetizing the Web, but nobody in their right mind is going to bet against him. Remember that the iPad is intended as a continuance of franchise, and they'll happily migrate users who are already "in the franchise" with the iPhone...and they'll happily take Apple up on the offer, since Springboard is a superior UI experience.

    Plus, as a digital creative, I know a bug-rife pain the tuckus Flash is. HTML5 will kill it...and the iPad is set up for HTML5.
  • TheFounder
    I'm not arguing with you regarding HTML5 .... I am all on board with open standards. I don't own a Windows or an Apple machine as I prefer Ubuntu Linux.

    That being stated, if large parts of the internet (mostly all the flash areas) are unviewable to these apple devices.. how do you call that a success?

    "nobody in their right mind is going to bet against him"

    Sergi and Larry have no problem betting against Jobs...
  • michaelsemer
    But are they actively betting against him -- or are they thinking the Web is big enough to allow a variety of philosophies and standards? I can see Jobs having a very successful, closed environment that, for better or worse, is founded on a lot of exclusionary, DRM-driven relationships with content providers (he must love what Macmillan just went through with Amazon). But God forbid if Steve Jobs (or any one arbiter) is ever the standard-setter for all content available over the Web, or even for the UI necessary to access it. But I can imagine Jobs creating an ecology that will work just fine for most consumers, can't you?

    As for Flash...don't you think H.264 and (eventually) HTML5 provide a viable alternative? It's my understanding that most of the Flash sites that some people cite as being evidence he's off the mark on this front actually feature alternates that allow video, et al, to function quite well on iPhone's browser. There have been a couple of posts today that have pointed this out (at www.daringfireball.com, among others). Jobs doesn't want to allow Flash because, well, Flash enables Hulu, etc., and that takes content control out of his hands. And he thinks this device is a lever to monetize content, not agnostically surf, no matter what he may claim.
  • TheFounder
    We agree on HTML5 better than flash ... for the simple licensing standpoint... (though we don't agree on it being H.264 .. I would need it to be ogg theora .. as I noted earlier... open standards are almost always superior.. and adopting H.254 would just be switching from one costly format (flash) to another (H.264) .

    If you are going to do it right.. do it right... and that means Ogg.

    And if you are saying that he is not allowing flash on his devices because he doesn't want anyone looking at Hulu instead of his authorized stores.. then the whole model is flawed.

    Look I'm the wrong person to talk to this about.. if it were up to me everyone would have an linux laptop, openoffice, firefox or Chrome.

    The entire concept of proprietary formats baffles me.. as I personally feel that software is like Math, and it shouldn't be allowed to be patented.
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